"Time Heals All Wounds"

by Elder R. E. Maudsley

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Time heals all wounds - at least that's what they say. I'm not so certain that the time we experience in one probation, to be sufficient in every circumstance to heal all wounds or to repent of certain sins? For example:

"And now, behold, I speak unto the church. Thou shalt not kill; and he that kills shall not have forgiveness in this world, nor in the world to come. And again, I say, thou shalt not kill; but he that killeth shall die." (D&C 42:18 & 19.)

Are we not "in" this "world"? So what pray tell, is the "world" to come? How about, simply another world? Or another time? How about another probation? Gee sounds good to me!

But, how can we rectify such a concept or doctrine with the scriptures? Joseph Smith in quoting the Savior explained,

"What did Jesus do? Why I do the things I saw my father do when the worlds came rolling into existence, my father worked out his kingdom with fear and trembling, and I must do the same; and when I get my kingdom, I shall present it to my father so that he may obtain kingdom upon kingdom, and it will exalt him in glory. He will then take a higher exaltation, and I will take his place, and thereby become exalted myself. So that Jesus treads in the tracks of his father, and inherits what God did before; and God is thus glorified and exalted in the salvation and exaltation of all his children. It is plain beyond all disputation." ('Discourses of the Prophet Joseph Smith', Alma P. Burton, page 264.)

Now, is Eve the "Mother of All Living"? Yes, that is what we are told in the endowment, is it not? Alright, then who is the "Father of All Living", even the Father of us all? Well, it's just got to be Adam doesn't it? Are we not all instructed in the endowment to hence forth consider ourselves as Adam & Eve? Adam & Eve are out arch-types! They are our examples and we must do the things that they have done right? So, when Jesus was born unto Mary, a daughter of Adam & Eve, does this not make Adam the father of Jesus Christ? It most assuredly does - doesn't it? Now, let us get this thing straight, Jesus did the things He saw His father do when the worlds came rolling into existence. So, Jesus Christ's father is the "Creator" of this and other worlds? Yes, Michael created this earth according to the endowment and then he came down and became Adam - right?

But, you are thinking that Jesus Christ was Jehovah? Okay, lets look at that possibility. According to the endowment, Eloheim did not "go down" with Jehovah & Michael to the "matter unorganized" and then organize it, or create a world from it. So, If Jesus was Jehovah, then Joseph Smith screwed up mightily, because Jesus did not do what Eloheim did in the creation of this world! Besides the fact that Jesus won't receive His Kingdom until He gives it to His father and then His father gives it back to Him at Adam-Ondi-Ahman - right? So, who does this earth belong to?

"Adam, Eve, this earth has been created for you, and it has placed upon it all kinds of vegetation and animal life. We have commanded all these to multiply in their own sphere and element. We give you dominion over all these things, and make you, Adam, Lord over the whole earth, and all things on the face thereof." (The Endowment.)

Joseph Smith taught in the School of the Prophets:

"Let us here observe, that three things are necessary in order that any rational and intelligent being may exercise faith in God unto life and salvation. First, the idea that he actually exists. Secondly, a correct idea of his character, perfections, and attributes. Thirdly, an actual knowledge that the course of life which he is pursuing is according to his will. For without an acquaintance with these three important facts, the faith of every rational being must be imperfect and unproductive; but with this understanding it can become perfect and fruitful, abounding in righteousness, unto the praise and glory of God the Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. Having previously been made acquainted with the way the idea of his existence came into the world, as well as the fact of his existence, we shall proceed to examine his character, perfections, and attributes, in order that this class may see, not only the just grounds which they have for the exercise of faith in him for life and salvation, but the reasons that all the world, also, as far as the idea of his existence extends, may have to exercise faith in him, the Father of all living." (Lectures on Faith, Lecture Third, verses 2-6.)

So, this earth belongs to Adam and Adam is the "Father of All Living" here upon, as Adam is Michael the Archangel, who came down with Jehovah, his father, and created this earth as he had seen His father do before with another earth. Jesus is our brother and a son of Adam, according to the flesh, and according to Joseph Smith Jesus did what he saw his father do - "my father worked out his kingdom with fear and trembling, and I must do the same;". Where? Do we fear and tremble in the Spirit World? Or in the Terrestrial or Celestial Worlds? Probably not! Because we don't die in those worlds or get sick or have to have a job! So, Jesus has done as He saw His father do, He has worked out His kingdom in a Telestial Mortal Probation, where he was subject to death, etc.. And then offered up His life to atone for the sins of those who become members of His Kingdom. This is what Christ did! This is what His father did! And His father's father, so on and so forth - and so are the generations of the Gods!

Joseph Smith taught,

"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. *** We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see." (DPJS, pg 262.)

So, God, was at one time a man, just like us in a mortal probation. He worked out (built/obtained) His Kingdom on an earth in a telestial world with fear and trembling, doing that which he saw His father do ahead of Him. How? By being there with his father in a mortal probation, just as my sons observe me in a mortal probation and I observed my father in a mortal probation, where there is fear and trembling. Joseph went on to expound this concept,

"The scriptures inform us that Jesus said, as the Father hath power in himself, even so hath the son power - to do what? Why what the Father did. The answer is obvious - in a manner to lay down his body and take it up again. Jesus, what are you going to do? To lay down my life as my Father did, and take it up again. Do you believe it? If you do not believe it you do not believe the Bible. The scriptures say it, and I defy all the learning and wisdom and all the combined powers of earth and hell together to refute it. Here, then, is eternal life - to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all gods have done before you, namely, by going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one; from grace to grace, from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in everlasting burnings, and to sit in glory, as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power. And, I want you to know that God, in the last days, while certain individuals are proclaiming his name, is not trifling with you or me." (DPJS, pg 263-264.)

All of this being done with fear and trembling, watching what our fathers do ahead of us, and then doing what they did to become a father and a god. Can this be done in one life time? Obviously not, otherwise Joseph Smith's all wet and dead wrong! And he's not wrong, but absolutely right! It is very plain and simple to see, that Joseph's teaching the Doctrine of Multiple Probations or Eternal Progression! The Plans of Salvation and Exaltation don't work without this principle of multiple mortal probations! It's the glue that sticks it all together!

I hope I've began to explain this doctrine to you in a manner easily digested, for one and for all. So, just in case I haven't let me offer you the following. Brigham Young testified the 9th of April 1852, in the Salt Lake Tabernacle, in general conference:

"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do. Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later." (Journal of Discourses, Volume 1, page 50.)

Christ did just what he saw his father, Adam, "the Father of All Living", do in a mortal probation when Adam played the role of a redeemer on another earth. Now, Christ will assume the role of Michael at Adam-Ondi-Ahman in the beginning of the Millennium, then at the end of the Millennium there will be another war in heaven:

"and Satan shall be bound, that old serpent, who is called the devil, and shall not be loosed for the space of a thousand years. And then he shall be loosed for a little season, that he may gather together his armies. And Michael, the seventh angel, even the archangel, shall gather together his armies, even the hosts of heaven. And the devil shall gather together his armies; even the hosts of hell, and shall come up to battle against Michael and his armies. And then cometh the battle of the great God; and the devil and his armies shall be cast away into their own place, that they shall not have power over the saints any more at all." (D&C 88:110-114.)

Next, Michael will play the creator role and create another earth where upon he will come down and then fall to another mortal probation and play the Adam role as he saw his father do on this earth, going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one; from grace to grace, from exaltation to exaltation. This is eternal lives! And the Doctrine of Multiple Probations or Eternal Progression.

Now, the principle of repentance is an eternal principle! All labor and recompense for our sins must be made in this telestial world -

"For behold, this life is the time for men to prepare to meet God; yea, behold the day of this life is the day for men to perform their labors. And now, as I said unto you before, as ye have had so many witnesses, therefore, I beseech of you that ye do not procrastinate the day of your repentance until the end; for after this day of life, which is given us to prepare for eternity, behold, if we do not improve our time while in this life, then cometh the night of darkness wherein there can be no labor performed." (Alma 34:32-33.)

Thus, the teachings of the Lord's Apostle Heber C. Kimball, become much more clear -

"We have come here to become inured to work-to build temples, and improve upon the elements that God has placed around us, that we may become more skillful tomorrow, through the experience of to-day. What I do not to-day, when the sun goes down, I lay down to sleep, which is typical of death; and in the morning I rise and commence my work where I left it yesterday. That course is typical of the probations we take. But suppose that I do not improve my time to-day, I wake up to-morrow and find myself in the rear; and then, if I do not improve upon that day, and again lay down to sleep, on awaking, I find myself still in the rear. This day's work is typical of this probation, and the sleep of every night is typical of death, and rising in the morning is typical of the resurrection. They are days labours, and it is for us to be faithful to-day, tomorrow, and every day." (JD 4:329.)

And"

"Joseph always told us that we would have to pass by sentinels that are placed between us and our Father and God. Then, of course, we are conducted along from this probation to other probations, or from one dispensation to another, by those who conducted those dispensations." (JD 6:63.)

How much more clearly can Pres. Kimball speak on the doctrine of multiple probations? Even Pres. Joseph Smith Jun. Stated cautiously:

"And I heard a voice from heaven saying blessed are the dead who die in the Lord for from henceforth they do rest from their labors and their works do follow them -They rest from their labors for a long time and yet their work is held in reserve for them, that they are permitted to do the same works after they receive a resurrection for their bodies, but we shall leave this subject of the Terrestrial bodies for another time in order to treat upon them more fully."(Words of Joseph Smith, Ehat, page 42.)

"A" resurrection for their bodies and "the" resurrection of their bodies are two different things, one is a sub-part of the other. We can receive "A" resurrection into another temporal probation, by being born into a temporal world all the way up to and including the same resurrection that Christ received after crucifixion. Resurrection is gradiated, as is everything else in eternity. Are we the literal offspring of God? Yes! How are children born in the Celestial World? The same way they are born here! How are they made? The same way! So, where do these children come from? Do Terrestrial parents have children? Yes, they most certainly do! How are they made? How are they born? The same way they are here, in this world. Where do the children come from? Are they not disembodied spirits and intelligences, or can they even be embodied spirits? Interesting thought, isn't it?

Now, before you get all twisted up in your underwear over these concepts, remember that I am aware that the LDS Church teaches that only those with a Celestial body can have children. Really? Does God ever give us a commandment that we cannot fulfill? No, He does not! Then why on earth did God command Adam & Eve to multiply and Replenish the earth in the Terrestrial world known as the Garden of Eden, as they had condescended to that order according to the early endowments and the "Lecture at the Veil" by Brigham Young in 1877, if terrestrial bodies cannot make and bear children? When Joseph Smith translated the Book of Abraham, he developed the Egyptian Alphabet and Book of Grammar, in which Joseph defines the word "Zip-zool-eh", as "The generations (posterity/children) of Adam and Eve IN THE GARDEN."!!! The Garden of Eden is a Terrestrial World! In a Telestial World, we are termed as "men or man". In a Terrestrial World, we are termed as "Sons of God" and in a Celestial World termed "Gods". Where in the heck do you suppose the "Sons of God" came from who came down and took the daughters of Eve to wife? The children of Adam & Eve who remained in the Garden after they were cast out! What do you suppose Adam meant when he proclaimed, "Eve, I see that this must be so, I will partake that man might be." (The Endowment.) He meant that up until that point, all they'd produced was terrestrial "Sons and Daughters of God", that they could now produce temporal telestial bodies " that man might be". It is in this life, a telestial order, that we learn from our experiences how to become gods. So, if you were Adam and Eve, and your work and glory is to bring about the eternal life and exaltation of "man", and all you had were "Son & Daughters of God" who have not been tried, tested and proved "to see if they will do all things whatsoever the Lord their God shall command them" (Abraham 3:25). Adam & Eve had to fall to a telestial order, that they could being to prepare telestial bodies for their children, " that man might be.", that they might be eventually exalted and glorified, for this IS the work of the Father. Please bear in mind, that when a man or woman is translated, they become a terrestrial being and a "Son or Daughter of God" and they can and do have children! The leaders of the LDS Church are liars and are purposely deceiving their members as to the Plan of Salvation and Exaltation - they offer a false hope in Christ


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