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Email sent to the CES Letter On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 11:47 AM
Hello,
First, I wish to say thank you for sharing this with the
world and making it free to anyone by downloading the many different versions
available.
I have a website and it is called mormonperfection.com, I
am asking your permission to share this information there. All links, including
the free downloads, purchasing your book, and making a donation will direct the
person to your site. CES Letter (mormonperfection.com).
Please let me know if this is okay, and if not I will
delete the page immediately.
Thank you,
Rodney Roy (Rod)
Response from Jeremy Runnells
I have a friend whose is a temple recommend
member of the LDS Church. He is married (in the temple) with 3 kids. His wife is
terminal with cancer and has about one month to live. Very sad. I am triing to
witness to him and in my studies I have some questions. Can you help?.
Mormons believe marriage in the LDS temple is eternal.
1. Can he remarry a widow member previously sealed in the temple?
or does he do just an earthly marriage?
Who will he spend eternity with? the first or the second?
2. Marry a divorced lady who was sealed in the temple?
3. Marry a divorced lady who was not sealed in the temple?
Sorry for the silly questions. I am triing to help him through this time and
just wanted to know this with asking him the questions.
Great web page.
Richard
Hello Rod,
I just wanted to say that i think your site is so
cool. I don't have much else to say, but i'll be
praying for your ministry.
Sincerely,
Scott McGourty
Dear Friend,
I noticed that you have the complete journal of discourses 26 volume set on
your website. My computer tried to download all of the links at once for
that reference material. It shouldn't have interrupted service to your site
as my download speed is limitted. Then it occurred to me that perhaps a
more ethical way of browsing is to just view each link randomly.
This material will prove to be of great value to me friend. I hope to use
the information to witness to people of the Mormon faith.
Cordially,
Todd
Rod,
Thanks for the recipe for meatloaf yesterday.
Appreciate the time you invested in "setting me
straight" about the LDS church.
Don´t forget to start work on your essay about the
Endowment!
John
Rod,
Thanks for chatting with me yesterday. Yes, I am
interested in the male version of the clothing, so
take a peek in the closet, if you have the time.
Sorry, I meant CD. I am most interested in the 1990
version of the Endowment, but a recording of the 1984
version would work just as well.
If all goes well, I will call you this weekend.
Thanks gain for your help.
John
hello-
i am researching an interfaith photography project and am looking for any
California based organizations/communities you might know about for native
American Mormons
thanks
Rick nahmias
310-278-1829
Hello Rod,
Hello Rod,
Hello Rod,
Hello Rodney,
Hello Roy, thank you for putting this tape on your website. It is
such a well done video. I believe that God will use it to reach many
people with His good news. The pastor that is heading up this
ministry spoke at our church - Calvary Chapel SL - and it was the
most powerful gospel message! It was awesome. Your page looks
good. Looks like you put a lot of work into it.
God's grace,
Chris
To member:
rod@helpingmormons.org
>From member: jmartinez73
Hello.
I see that you are bidding on the Oct 1978 LDS fall conference tapes. I've been
watching those and was going to bid on them but I noticed that you are from
helpingmormons.org?
I was going to also bid on the 1979 spring conference tapes and was wondering if
you won your auction if you'd be willing to share the mp3's with me? I'll be
more than willing to record the tapes from the 1979 and share those with you if
you'd like.
I'm guessing that you're looking for the same time period I am : when the blacks
were allowed the priesthood?
Take care and keep up the ministry,
Jared
An Urgent Need
Dear brothers in Christ,
Here in Romania, we are under a Mormon siege. And
through this letter, we want to inform you about the
situation in our country. Mormons are conquering more
and more ground and they are present in all the major
cities of Romania, attracting people to their false
god and gospel. Only in the capital, in Bucharest,
they have built seven great chapels. They are trying
to convert people to Mormonism through every possible
means: conferences, English language classes, door to
door witnessing and dissemination of literature (even
advertising of the Book of Mormon as being a Christian
book.) In the rural parts, people receive money or
tools for converting to Mormonism.
Under these circumstances, we would like to ask you
for help. My name is Paul Dan and I am the pastor of a
small church here in Bucharest. I am a Romanian with
US citizenship. I came in the USA in 1994, as a
political refugee. I am married - my wife name is
Luminita - and we have five daughters. In 1992, I
graduated from Talbot School of theology. Presently, I
am a missionary in Romania, working in
Cults-Apologetics and church planting. My references
in US are: Dr. J.P. Moreland, Professor of Christian
Philosophy and Apologetics at Talbot School of
Theology. He can be reached at 1- (562) - 903 6000,
extension 4764, and Dr. Bingham Hunter, Adult
Ministries Pastor at Harvest Bible Chapel, in Rolling
Meadows, Illinois, phone no. 1 - (847) 398 7024,
extension 120.
I would like to tell you a few things about our work
here until now. We have translated stuff about Seventh
Day Adventism, Mormonism and Jehova's Witnesses. All
these translations were done by our translator, Miss
Alina Lincan. Alina is an English teacher in Bucharest
and she has done a fantastic job, translating all
these things. She started with the translation of two
movies: "Left Behind" and "Tribulation", which were
shown to large audiences (especially young) in
Bucharest. Last summer, she translated parts of a
website (www.ellenwhite.org) about Ellen
White and the
heresies of Seventh Day Adventism. She went on,
through this fall and winter, translating "The God
Makers" by Dave Hunt and Ed Decker and "Reasoning from
the Scriptures with the Jehova's Witnesses" by Ron
Rhodes. In all of these, she has done a terrific job,
of which I am very happy. I have supported financially
all these translations from my own resources. But now,
my financial resources are very limited and that is
why I am making an appeal to you. We would like to
start working on the translation of parts of your
website, which are more relevant here in Romania,
because the youth are on I-net al day long. We would
like to ask for your approval concerning the
translation of part of your website. Also, can you
find for us some sponsors who would be willing to give
us a financial help of 1000 dollars for this work to
be completed? The money could be sent by increments,
as the work of translation progresses. You can send
the money directly to Alina's bank account. Account
number: S443\251100230002248, SWIFT: BRDEROBU. You
could send the money by increments, as the work of
translation progresses. By doing so, you would greatly
help the young people in Romania, which find
themselves under a fierce Mormon attack and completely
lack any informational material about the true nature
of this damaging cult. If the Lord helps us in this
project, we want to send the link with the translation
to many Romanian websites. We would also advertise it
in the newspaper, so that lots of people may have
access to this information.
This $ 1000 will also help Alina take a short mission
trip to China this summer, together with her fiancé,
Alex. They both feel called by the Lord to serve in
China as missionaries and, by His grace, they will
travel to China with pastor Graham Cousens from UK,
working for The World Team missionary organization.
For any references, contact brother Graham Cousens at
the address:
gacousens@cs.com
With the hope of finding a help in you and of working
together in God's ministry in Romania, we are looking
forward to hearing from you. Here is Alina's e-mail
address, at which you can contact me or ask any
questions, through her address:
alinalincan@yahoo.com
Sincerely,
April 24, 2003
Paul Dan
Hi, i am very pleased to have come across your site, with so many good
messages to listen to. My question is whether I can record them for later
listening, or sharing for free. Mostly I am interested now in Walter martin's
(whom I miss much) messages. Thanks be to God that thru tapes he being dead
still speaketh. I have tried to email Kevin about this question at the address
you list on your page, but i have never received a reply.
Thank you very much, Daniel
Hello,
I just want to say, how sad it is that people get excommunicated from the Mormon church. I just want you to know, that I am not Mormon or a supporter of them. I believe in the Christ of the bible, and only that Christ, even though my faith isn't where it should be sometimes. I think in the Mormon church, they want to control their people. With excommunications, If someone finds out about the Mormon church being a cult, and leave under their own free-will. the church wants to excommunicate them, since they asked to have their name taken off of the membership rolls. I guess they don't want the other members, or the general public to know, that these people left under their own power. It seems the are hiding something, and another thing. this confuses me. If the Mormon church, claims to be the only true church, how come they want to be accepted as another Christian denomination. They call the our churches , the whores of Babylon. Maybe the found their true calling :) lol.
Thanks,
Josh
Wow!! I am really surprised. I just joined the “Mormons In Search Of Truth” yahoo group listed on your web site and I was looking at the temple recordings and just realized that you are based in Boise, ID. I also live in Boise. Good to see others in search of truth in our area. We are surrounded with so many Mormons in this area it is very sad!!
It is nice to meet you…
Emily Madsen
emilymadsen@cableone.net
Hey, I read your website -- wow!
I've seen a number of ex-Mormon websites, and it always strikes me that when
Mormons lose their Mormon faith, so often they lose all faith and reject
religion altogether. You are to be commended for walking into that void.
I'll pray for your site and your efforts. God bless.
:-) Briana
Dear
brothers:
I had my son, Don Westwood, download your presentation of the LDS overheads
since he has a high speed line. I'm not sure of his email address.
I will probably be using some or all of these in classes on the cult of LDS in
the future. Thanks for this very helpful ministry. It's important to
understand the enemy and his tactics.
In Christ,
Gordon Westwood
Greetings!
I am interested in obtaining a copy of an excommunication letter. I don't know the date or reason for the excommunication. Would you be able to steer me in the right direction? I don't know if I need to contact LDS church directly or if they even have these records public.
Thanks in advance for your assistance!
I see
from your reply time sent that you also are up way to late at night reading and
studying about defending our faith in Jesus Christ. Your site is incredibly
well put together and full of great info for learners like myself. Thanks for
your ministry.
I got to listen to James Walker (watchmen fellowship) speak this past week and
join him in praying for two now ex-mormons to accept the true Jesus into their
hearts. I had the privilege of joining him for a bite to eat afterwards and to
discuss some classes I am putting together for our church on mormonism. What a
blessing his ministry is just like yours. I hope you both keep putting out the
truth for all to see so that others like myself can learn from your knowledge
and keep growing the message of the gospel.
thanks again,
In His service,
Dave Hayes
In doing
research I have read that not only did Joseph Smith copy from the 1611 King
James version but that he also copied the italizied words which are supposed to
be the translators comments or clarifications about the verse. Any help would
be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Dave hayes
I am looking for some scholarly advice and hoped that
you could possibly help. I am just starting a
collection, and was wondering if you could help me
with this question.
How many and when were the printings of the Book of
Mormon in the 20th century? I know about the obvious
ones, such as the 1920 and the 1981 editions when the
book was revised, but was wondering what other years
they were published. For example, 1908, etc?
Thanks for your help,
Dave
Rod,
If only initials are used (no name or email address), I'll be glad to
address the questions you ask below. What I don't want, is an internet
search of my name or email address to yield hits to your website. I am
happy to share information with you as long as my name is not attached to
it. Does that sound fair?
I hope you understand, I am not interested in protecting the TLC at all, or
withholding information -- I simply do not want my name / picture /
information associated with them in any way whatsoever. The "testimony" I
wrote was done so under coercion, and then it was used and published
without my permission. I was not in a position to defy them at the time,
so I appreciate your help in rectifying the situation (as far as it
involves your website) now.
So, if I can be an anonymous source, I can provide you with plenty of
information that would probably be of interest to you. The TLC (at least
as of a year or two ago) tried very hard to emulate Joseph Smith's Nauvoo
mindset; and the same problems were rampant in Manti as were rampant in
Nauvoo. The comparison is a very interesting study.
What are your thoughts?
--Andy
Dear Mr. Roy,
My name is Kent Braddy, and I am a former member of the True & Living
Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days (TLC). In the same
manner as you have received communication from Jeff Hanks and Andy
Erickson, I am requesting that you remove my personal information from
your website--namely, my photograph, my testimony, and my name.
I appreciate your willingness to work with us in this manner, and I also
understand your desire to publish some of the information contained on
the former website of the TLC. Let me add my voice of support to you in
making the changes that my friends and I have requested. I can also
assure you that there was never formal copyright on the material, and it
would seem that with the deliberate closure of the TLC website several
years ago, any copyright should have reverted to the individual authors
of the documents.
Let me also assure you that it is highly unlikely that the TLC will ever
be interested in protesting your activities. If, by unthinkable chance,
the TLC were ever to force the issue, my friends and I would be very
interested to hear about it. Where you have acted in good faith, there
should be no fear of legal action.
If you need further information from me, please contact me at this email
address. Thanks again for your assistance in this matter.
Sincerely,
Kent Braddy
Dear Sir,
I will begin by stating emphatically that I am a devout member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
I judge no man and, thereby, have no qualms with people who do not agree with the Church. As a matter of fact, I gladly discuss the Church with all who would like to do so. I am an avid reader and researcher. Through this "hobby" of mine, I have researched, collected, and read volumes of "anti-" works. I have truly learned more about the Church through my personal studies than one could possibly imagine. I have a great deal of learning behind me and even more to come. (I am working toward a degree in law.)
That having been said, I would like to compliment you on your web site. It is one of the (if not THE) best resources I have yet to find. I have viewed most of your site and have found it to be quite well designed.
I do, however, have one area that has me baffled. I read your "disclaimer" I guess it would be called, but I cannot figure out why you have a direct link to TLC Manti site. Again I understand what you said at the beginning of the link, but it gives the distinct impression that you support the organization.
Please do not misunderstand me. I am glad you have them on your site. I have been trying for quite sometime now to access them, but I always find notices saying they are not speaking to the public or the site is down or whatever.
It is just my opinion, sir, that you are confused about what you believe. I would like to invite you to send me any information (scripturally backed) as to why you think the Church is wrong. As I wrote earlier in this message, I have viewed most of your site (possibly all of it), but that is not to say that I have necessarily read all that I have viewed. (Knowing that I am aware of what you have placed at the beginning of the TLC link, it is obvious that I have read at least some of the articles included therein.) With that in mind, please do not get irritated if at some point in the future I may ask you a question that you may have answered on your site.
Another question I have concerns the Book of Mormon (BoM). I did not notice anything that gave a definite opinion of yours concerning it on the site. How do you feel about the BoM?
A last question for now, sir. What is your opinion of the Inspired Version of the Bible (JST)? I noticed that in places you quoted from it.
Now for my own legal notice. While I am aware that you reserve the right to publish all or part of this email on your site, I must make one restriction. If you choose to excerpt any part of this, or any other email from me, and use it on your site, the excerpt(s) MUST be used in the context in which I have written it (them). Failure to follow this restriction will result in prompt legal action.
Thank you and sincerely,
s. Dennis HE Wiggins
Rod,
Thank you. It was not my intent to be rude. I appreciate your assistance
in this matter........
As I said before, the TLC does not own the copyright on these materials, so
if they do contact you with such a claim, I would appreciate hearing about
it -- though I would be very surprised if they were to do so. They
recently lost a $300,000 lawsuit, so they aren't anxious to go to a
courtroom again any time soon; and since they believe the end of the world
is always just a "day or two" away, I really doubt that they care at all
one way or another about the removals.
Also, for what it's worth, I am fairly certain that the Journal of
Discourses, the TLC Book of Mormon (which is just the 1830 BOM with modern
verses), and the other LDS historical documents are part of the public
domain (due to the time that has elapsed since they were written), and as
such you can continue to have them on your website with or without the
TLC's "permission". The J. of Discourses, and the rest of the "Reference
Library" could be available on your website completely separate from the
TLC material, if you wanted.
You have my sincere thanks for your attention to these matters. I do
appreciate your efforts with your website -- there are many who can benefit
from the insights into Mormonism that you offer.
Sincerely,
Andrew Erickson
Rod,
I am a friend of Jeff Hanks, and in a similar situation as he is. I have
written to you in the past and requested that you remove all information
about me and my family, and any materials written by me. You have ignored
my request, as you are ignoring Jeff's. What you may not realize is, the
TLC never had my permission, or Jeff's, to publish or disseminate any of
that information. The TLC holds no copyrights whatsoever to my written
material or my images. They have taken their website down; they had to in
order to avoid costly litigation. However, you continue to refuse to honor
the requests from the true owners of the materials you are publishing,
disseminating, and hosting without permission and in direct violation of
the authors' wishes and demands.
I also will be pursuing legal action. This nonsense has gone on long
enough. And while I'm at it, I will be contacting several others who have
had their images and written materials stolen by the TLC for unauthorized
and illegal use, an offense that you continue to perpetuate. More than
half of the authors whose work and photos appear on your site are no longer
in the TLC (and therefore, no longer subject to TLC abuse and coercion),
and I believe that most of them will be glad to offer help and resources
toward this legal effort. Also, they will all bring the same point of view
to the issue: all witnesses will agree that the TLC is not the copyright
holder of the materials, and that they were unrightfully appropriated and
used without consent.
The TLC is in no position to sue anyone, or come after you for some
supposed "copyright infraction" by removing the misappropriated
material. You can either remove my name, photos, written material, and
anything else in reference to me from your website, or prepare to defend
yourself in court.
Andrew Erickson
Hi Rodney...
Your site is by far the best informative site found on Mormonism anywhere...
well done!
I would like to print some information from your site to help with some
Mormon missionaries this week coming. The reference to your site shows on
the pages, so this won't be a problem will it?
Please let me know if there's any other legal info I should know concerning
extracting info from
www.helpingmormons.org
Thanks, Your's truly in Christ
Lance Marchetti
Kroonstad
South Africa
Hi Rodney
Could you please post the Powerpoint presentation in one .pps file on you
site.
I'll be speaking to Mormons this week and I founf it very helpful. Your name
will still show as the author on the intro slide.
Thanks
Lance Marchetti
South Africa
Just stumbled across your site, very nice.
Just thought I'd drop you a quick note and see if you had caught the
article in the Saturday Nov 30 Idaho Press Tribune (don't know if it was in
the Statesman or not).
It was on page 2A of the Tribune though, labeled "Mormon scholar piques
reprisal"
About a Student who was doing their thesis on "American Apocrypha", using
genetic data about American Indians (coming from native Siberians not
ancient Isreal). Another scholar the LDS church is looking at excommunication.
I think you may be able to look it up online at
www.idahopress.com, or you
should be able to get it at either BSU or the Boise Library if you want to
look at it.
Once again nice, site, hope it is useful as an outreach.
eric
Dear Director,
I have been researching on the internet and came across your very
enlightening site. I would like to learn more about your organization
which I assume to be addressing the concerns of people who are Mormon but
who do not agree with some of the Church directions.
I am not Mormon, but am trying to fully understand the practice of
posthumous baptism. I am Jewish and have had the very upsetting experience
of finding my family listed as having been posthumously consecrated into
the Church. These names have been removed from the IGI and the Ordinance
Index, but I am concerned that they still reside in some other list which
will surface long after I am gone.
It is my understanding that patrons have the religious responsibility of
submitting the names of their direct ancestors . I respect the right of
anyone to hold whatever religious belief they choose, but doesn't this
posthumous activity serve to negate the beliefs of others?
If this posthumous baptism is central to the teachings of the church,
should not the International Genealogical Index be identified for what it
truly is....an index of the names of people from a variety of religious and
ethnic backgrounds who have been posthumously consecrated to the church in
accordance with Mormon belief?
Further, if posthumous baptism requires a link to the person(s) being
baptized, how does this equate with the function of extractors who capture
names from birth and marriage indices and add them to the IGI?
My purpose in writing to your organization is not to challenge this
practice, but rather to understand it fully.
Respectfully yours,
Carol W. Skydell
First off I am so glad that there are people like you who are
trying to
spread the gospel and the truth about the LDS church. I live in eastern
Idaho and I just moved here and it is such a shock to see so much bigotry
between LDS people and non LDS people. If you are not LDS you are simply
not treated fairly wether it be trying to find a job or trying to buy a car.
But if you put on a white undershirt you would be surprised how
differently people act towards you. Dont beleive me? Try it sometime.
Women will flock to you if they think you are mormon here it is just crazy
they dont even care about you they just care if you are LDS or not.
There is a whole other world that goes on in and near Utah that most
americans are not aware of. I could go on and on but it would simple sound
to far fetched for people to beleive. Well unless they are a non mormon and
they live within 200 miles of SLC. But beleive me things like this and more
go on. I just hope and pray that the mormon church will change everything
and simple go by the bible the one and only true bible. I know this
probably wont happen but we can all pray and hope that it does.
Keep up the good work and keep up with trying to get word to all the mormons and
all the christians about what these people beleive in and how non christian the
whole thing is. Its like a buissness all they want it more
money. Think about it. They are encouraged to have ALOT of children.
Their children have alot of children and so on and so forth. Pretty soon
they have spread their whole non christian religion to the whole world.
Just more tithing. Do the math people if things keep up like they have been
the last few decades there will only be mormons in a couple of hundred
years. This is simply satan at work. They are nice people though but
unfortunately that will not get you into heaven. It may get you into a LDS
temple though where they can yup you guessed it get more cash out of you.
God bless you.
With the love of Jesus son of the Father Son and Holy Ghost,
Stan
Is this the same "real audio" file that has been
available for so long on the internet, which has now
been burned onto a cd? The quality of the original
"real audio" file was much to be desired. If I would
hear the same quality on the available cd, then I
would like to know before I order. I'm looking for
something clear and easily understood, not for my
sake, but for the sake of whom I would be playing it
for. I would appreciate your honest response.
Sincerely,
Ted (texas_stormcrow@yahoo.com)
=====
"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" (Galatians
4:16)
harmonytx2@hotmail.com
wants you to know about
International Ex-Mormon Meetup Day.
See
http://exmormon.meetup.com/ for
details!
----
I am an exmormon and I got your address off the web. I am trying to drum up
support for a brand new site that will enable exmormons to get together monthly
around the world, while still providing some anonymity. Please check out the
site and if you find it acceptable please join and please add it as a link to
any exmormon site you may have. Thank you.
Hi,
Thanks for the compliment, but let me explain I didn't start the
meetup.com site and I have no financial stake in it whatsoever. I just
happened to come across it a week ago and proposed to them an "exmormon
meetup". They added it yesterday.
I have thought about what you proposed as far as an exmormon-christian
meetup (actually I'm not a christian, but it's an excellent idea) and maybe
you could click on "Suggest A Topic" at the site and they may add it. I'm
thinking though that they are going to first want to see how many exmormons
sign up for this. That would be my guess anyway. I have no problem with a
meeting of exmormon-atheists, exmormon-christians, exmormon-whatevers
getting together. (I'm agnostic, at least for now.) It's a start you know. I
think when people first leave the church they need time to sort things out,
which I guess is what I am doing. What's neat about this website is that it
provides a way for people to meet up all over the world, not just in SLC or
Los Angeles. As long as it gets promoted, people can find out about
gatherings wherever they are, even overseas. It gives the average "Joe Blow
Exmormon" in Timbuktu a chance to find support in making the transition from
the mormon lifestyle.
Thanks again for your help; I appreciate it. Please inform meetup.com once
you've linked to them. They just like to be aware and they'll even link back
to your site if you want them to. Thanks again and please sign up there as
well. :-)
6/3/01
Dear Sirs,
I am not a member of the
church, but my husband and oldest son
are. I have been raising all four of my sons in the church up until
about six months ago. I am very upset with the church and its members.
I have tried hard not to let my children see this, but in the process
let them know that I don't want them going to this church any longer.
My question is, how easy or hard will it be for me to have my oldest
sons membership terminated, and will the fact that my husband still
believes in the church be a factor? Please let me know as soon as
possible.
YOURS IN CHRIST
PAULA ATKINSON
kids@atcnet.net
05/21/01
Hi there. I would LOVE to get some info on your ministry!
I am in the
process of starting a ministry much like yours and I think this is the BEST
web site EVER!!!! Thank you sooo much. God Bless you!! See you in
Manti
this year!
Thanks again!,
Sandi
I sent an email to another address requesting information, and
some of this
I said there as well, but I wanted to tell you that I think this is the BEST
web site EVER! I am in the process of starting a ministry like this one
and
I am really encouraged right now. Thank you so much for being such a light
with this. I am planning on being in Manti this summer, so it will be as
amazing as always to see the Lord work! Well, I just wanted to tell you
that and in the words of a co-worker/friend of mine which works with Young
Life... Press On!!
God Bless!,
Sandi
sandi.roberts@worldnet.att.net
05/07/01
05/05/01
05/05/01
Rod,
I want to say thank you for the work you have provided for God. My Wife
just
received Christ 3 years ago, after 19 years of Mormonism. She was seminary
President and attending Ricks College when she got saved. Now, after two
years of marriage, her 14 year old sister has received Christ also. I have
a
deep compassion for witnessing to mormons. Her family has made things very
difficult, but Things like you web page help me to stand strong. Anyways,
I
want to offer my services in any way that I can. If there is any thing I
can
do, Please ask.
In Christ,
Jake Lee
(208) 463-1815
04/22/01
Hi Rodney,
I haven't been an active member for over 9 years, but I was raised (and
blessed) into the mormon church.
The sacrement prayers sound exact (you might want to note that if they're
not said exact, they are repeated until they are exact. I remember once it
was repeated 6-8 times). I never heard the aaronic or melchezidek, or it
was rare. Or the concecration of oil.
The baby blessing sounds correct. My Mom actually recorded all mine (and
my 5 siblings) blessings. Basically, my dad (and members of my extended
family) would bless us that we would be happy, go on missions, meet nice
mormons and marry in the temple, etc. It's been a long time, I'm not sure
if this is common.
Just wanted to give you feedback...
alex in Indy
Alexandra Kollontai
aerin64@hotmail.com
04/19/01
I was hoping to get some more
information sent to me about this site. I have
to tell you I feel like I was guided to your web site the other day. I was
sitting in traffic heading downtown on State Street when I noticed your
vehicle and the caption printed on the rear window. At the time I thought
"I
need to pull this guy over and check this out" but I obviously chickened
out
and just made a note of the web address to look up later. When my roommate
got home from work that evening, she started telling me about this car she
saw while she was driving home (heading downtown again, this time from
Vista). My ex-husband & I split up over the LDS church. He is a member &
I
was a convert with questions. While he is not by any means a practicing
member of his church, he was offended by my decision to attend another
church that is not LDS. He could not turn his back on his faith largely I
feel because of his families roots in the church. He recently told me he
wanted to reconcile & that he had been questioning his church & some of
the
beliefs. Of course he changed his mind and started trying to get me back to
the church once the reconciliation process began. He still harbors the same
questions though & I have been praying for guidance on how to get this
message through to him. It seems to me my prayers have been answered by your
site. I can't tell you how shocked I was to find the 17 points of the true
church on your site. This has been a MAJOR discussion for us. He finally
gave me the biblical references for these points & when I read the
scriptures referred to on the little card, I found a lot of inconsistencies.
We have been debating this for days now.
Please send me more information about this site & the subjects talked about.
I think they could be very helpful to him in discovering what God wants from
him.
Thank you so much for this site. It has truly been an eye opener for me.
Sincerely,
Brandi Bowles
719 Village Lane
Boise ID 83702
bbowles@itd.state.id.us
04/02/01
Dear Rod & Rose,
I want to commend you for posting responses that are "cons" as well as
"pros" in regard to your website ministry. I have been thrilled
to see
the "pros" and intrigued at the "cons".
As an ex-member of a legalistic religion, I know what it's like to be
easily offended at any criticism of my tightly held faith. I also know
what it's like to finally discover that those things which I've held to
be solid are pretty full of holes.
I just hope that those who take offence at the information on your site
will at least take an honest look at their own heart to see if they are
committed to their church, or committed to God and the Truth regardless
of where it comes from. That's a pretty painful revelation sometimes,
but makes all the difference in the world (and eternity).
Sincerely,
Kimberly Callahan
manna@micron.net
11/29/00
I am an exmormon..... currently
involved with Freedom From Mormonism.... I came across the link to your site
when it was posted on our Recovery Bulletin Board. I was very pleased to see how
well researched all of your information was. I hope that it helps people not
only learn why to avoid the Mormon Church but also help those who are trying to
leave. Many people have a hard time leaving and the pain and isolation the
church puts on them is horrible. That is why we have our group to help promote
recovery and freedom. I also wanted to comment on your Blood Atonement area. I
am not sure if you are aware or not but there have been quite a few suicices in
the last couple of weeks... some because of the Prop 22/mormon involvment... and
one suicide even has the bishop talking about how the gentleman did what was
best for his family. Blood Atonement is not taught openly anymore ... but it is
still taught, in the quiet areas, and the die hard groups. I am enclosing the
link to my exit story which involves Blood Atonement "
http://www.teleport.com/~packham/warning2.htm
Cause of Death: Mormonism." I was a Gospel Doctrine
teacher in the church and there are also many others like me who are active in
Freedom From Mormonism. There are about 120 stories on our site about those who
have left the church and the problems they had. If you have any questions that
we can help with please contact me or you can email the administrative board
from our FFM site "
http://exmormon.org/
Welcome to Freedom From Mormonism!"
Again let me just say what a wonderful and informative site you have... It's
nice to know there are others out there who are helping too :-)
Valerie
ExMoRebel@aol.com
3/13/00
Hi,
I just sent you an e-mail by accident that had nothing in it. I am in the
process of researching your mininstry and must say that I am encouraged to
find that such a thing exsists! My mom is involved with the mormon church
and we have agreed to disagree on this issue. However, I can't help but
think that with the right knowledge my mom would reject these false beliefs.
I am interested in receiving information, if you would be so kind to send
it.
My address is
Bess Avrille
7550 W 23rd Ave
Lakewood, CO 80215
Thank you for listening(reading) this. I covet your prayers for my mom,
her
name is Caroline. THANKS!!
12/21/99
Hello!
My name is Mary and I am 17. I am a former Jehovah Witness and a former Mormon. I left Mormonism this past spring and have since rededicated my life to Jesus Christ.
I have been trying to witness to and reason with a Mormon friend, Sam, and have been praying didligently for him. Right now, he is very upset with me for "attacking" what he values and devaluing his "testimony" He is feeling very offended. I have been where he is (twice) and I know the process, I lived the process. With me, I was very stubborn and people had to go so far as to force me to think on my own, and I have been through a very informal kind of deprogramming.
There is so much more to my story than I could possibly write in one setting, but I was wondering if you could send me some info on effectively and lovingly presenting the gospel of Christ to Mormons. I have been trying to reach him by speaking of things like justification through grace, but it is just not registering.
I am overwhelmed with gratitude toward my Heavenly Father who has provided all sufficient grace for even me. I feel strongly that I have a responsibility to show those I care about who are still in cults that God is love. I feel that the Lord allowed me to go through everything that I have so that I could be used by Him as a witness of His love.
Thanks for listening! Please keep my friend Sam in your prayers. Any information you could send me would be very appreciated. I also want you to know that websites like yours have truly been an answer to prayer for me.
God bless you!!
Mary
11/21/99
Thanks for the location of the handbook.
I had absolutely no interest in looking at it until they wanted to sue the Tanners against using it.
Greg
Rev. Gregory A. Mahdesian
mahdesian@netzero.net
Pawtucket, RI USA
11/3/99
God Bless in the name of Jesus
Hello Rod,
Whew... what a big site. I have read several of your offerings and haven't even scratched the surface. What you have provided your visitors on this web site is a real blessing of info. Hope that you continue to add to the site relevant information of the coming and going of the LDS so that many will be informed and aware.
May the Lord continue to guide you in your minsitry outreach with His word. May this fall season bring you and your wife a spiritual harvest of the good things that come from His hand. God bless...
Joseph Raymond (nuB1)
http://members.tripod.com/~nu_b1/index.html
The Christian Railway
http://home.netinc.ca/~raymoj/tcr/TCR-AA.htm
Bye for now...
raymoj@netinc.ca
10/5/99
Hi Rod,
It's so nice to hear from you. I also enjoyed meeting you in Nauvoo. How
fun to receive these pictures! Thank you.
I visited your web site and looked at the scrapbook of the outreach. I
hated to have to leave so early! Looks like you guys had lots of
wonderful opportunities to share God's mercy and grace.
I'm wondering if you can give me any contact information for Terry Foss
as we spoke about in Nauvoo?
Keep in touch, okay? And thanks again for the photos.
Your sister in Christ,
Sharon
info@answeringlds.org
8/30/99
--
"He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might
become the righteousness of God in Him." 2 Corinthians 5:21
For a biblical perspective on Mormonism visit Word for the Weary's web
site at:
http://www.answeringlds.org
Dear Rod and Rose:
I heard about your site through the Berean Report, put out by John
Farkas. I was at the recent temple opening in Columbus, OH (my
hometown) and was able to spend some time passing out literature and
witnessing. I wanted to complement you on your site...it's well done!
I would also like to ask you to send me a real audio file for both the
1984 and the 1990 temple ceremonies. I did the 1984 endowment in the
D.C. temple and I'd love to have a copy of "my" ritual and the changed
one. Would you also be able to tell me how to do the hookup so I could
make a tape from the PC? I think that all that is necessary is to go
from the speaker output on the sound card into a microphone input on a
tape recorder, but I'm not sure.
Thanks in advance for the files, and God bless you and your ministry!
Steve Seever
stevend@beol.net
8/29/99
In His Service
Robert Grob
rdgrob@southwind.net
8/28/99
Dear Rodney,
I was so glad to hear from you. Praise God you are out of the LDS church. I pray that you have accepted Jesus Christ.
Would it be possible for you to come and visit here? During the Mormon pageant would be a great time. We have some excellent teachers--some of the best in any ministries who come to help us. It would be a great learning time for you. I have extra sleeping beds, so the cost of getting here and eating would be all you would be out.
Tell me more about how you got out. I am always facinated. And if I can be of help to you please let me know. Keep in touch. I will write more later. I have been to the doctor this morning and am trying to get the Center ready for our official opening tomorrow. This will be our 12th year. Did you hear the news? They plan to build a temple here.
In His service,
Colleen Ralson
Director of the
Nauvoo Christian Visitors Center
ncvc@nauvoo.net
4/5/99
Rodney,
Very well done! I didn't even know that there was a difference in the
Temple
and the Bible about how the earth was created!
YSIC,
Jeni
NEWHOPE316@aol.com
4/5/99
Below is the result of your
feedback form. It was submitted by
Auri (Auridan@aol.com) on Thursday, March
18, 1999 at 18:20:44
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request: I am leaving the Mormon church. I need prayer that I might find the
truth. I am so burned by religion.
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Rodney,
I enjoyed surfing through your pages and everything is "cool".
Love the
recipes, too! Keep up the good work! I enjoy your posts on MIT-talk, too.
God bless!
Evelyn Hall
FREE IN JESUS
wchall@nevia.net
3/15/99
Hi Rodney,
I was just wondering (from the location and name of your ministry) if
you work in any capacity with Pastor Mark Cares in Nampa.
I thank God for people like you who are trying to help the LDS in my
(real) home. I am a displaced son of Idaho. I grew up in Fruitland
and
lived in Boise for five years before leaving for New Mexico and Oregon.
The whole time I lived in "Mormon Country" I thought the LDS church
was
just another Christian denomination! May God help you spread the truth!
God Bless,
Rich Strange
Tigard, OR
ionguy@ix.netcom.com
3/6/99
I was visiting your web page just
out of cuiosity. I am a Christian,
but my brother-in-law converted to Mormanism a few years back. He
converted so that he could marry his girlfriend. Now I think he is
beginning to believe the teachings. This isn't a great problem for me
because he seems to follow the teachings selectively. He follows them
when it's convienent. The problem is that he has a newborn baby. I
went to the blessing at his church. The things that were said disturbed
me. I am fearful for his new daughter. They don't live close to me,
so
I don't see them very often. Do you have any advice, or do you know of
any resources available that could help me. I can't bear my niece going
to hell. At the blessing they prayed for her. They seemed to think
that would save her from going to hell.
Any thought would be appreciated.
1/2/99
Michelle Scheinder
Mrs_Drake@bigfoot.com
Hello Rodney,
Thanks so much for providing us a copy of your well written
piece on how to have one's name removed from church records.
We sometimes get requests from members regarding how to do
this. May we have your permission to provide your article to those
who ask?
Thanks again. We look forward to hearing from you again regarding
distribution of your piece.
God bless and best wishes,
Peter Elias
12/10/98
Trust The Truth Association
http://members.aol.com/PeterElias/thetruth.htm
PeterElias@aol.com
What a nice e-mail, Rod --
Can't say I'll ever use the contents, but
you certainly do good work on the
visuals you put together.
Best wishes from the
RLDS side of the fence --
Dale in Hilo
12/10/98
dbroadhu@gte.net
I have enjoyed looking at your
site. My name is Tim I am from Michigan.
My wife and I have been "Members in good standing" for 5 years right
up
until last Wednesday when we delivered a letter to our Bishop asking to
have our names removed from the church records. We have been doing a
little investigation lately and have found lot's of interesting
information about the past that the leaders would just assume we not
know about :~)!
We were evangelical Christians before we were deceived into joining the
LDS church (Cult) anyway we were blessed we quickly found a new church
that quickly has filled up our emptiness and is helping to relieve our
doubts and concerns that we are giving up our eternal salvation! Well, I
won't keep you long, but I thought you might have some advice for me
and my family! Seeing that you all have just gone through this. See Ya
later!
Tim Crafton
"Saved By GRACE"
11/28/98
TCraf68458@MediaOne.net
Thank You,
Brian Bell
bebell@cbpu.com
11/23/98
Hi Rodney!
I live in Hungary, Central Europe, which is pretty far
from you. I accepted Christ as my Lord and Saviour
two years ago. I heard about your homepage in a
newsgroup, but I don't remember which.
Love in Christ,
Doroszlai Attila a.k.a. {eti}
[Sch. 810.] [1-3725100/810] [www.sch.bme.hu/~eti/]
11/1/98
Bill Williams
willprog@sprintmail.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 1998 5:36 PM
Subject: I added your link to my page!
Rodney,
Your site is very creative. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Please send me
your postal address, as I'd like to send you some complimentary issues
of our Heart and Mind newsletter. We mail it free to nearly 60,000 LDS
homes nationwide. I'd like you input on how to increase its impact.
In our blessed Lord,
Luke
___________________________________
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INSTITUTE FOR RELIGIOUS RESEARCH
1340 Monroe Ave. N.W.
Grand Rapids, MI 49505 USA
Phone: 616-451-4562
Fax: 616-451-8907
Mailto: Luke@irr.org
Internet:
http://www.irr.org
10/14/98